Any advice welcome, thinking about buying a cheap keyboard and giving it a go.
I'm a big fan of people like Brian Eno, Swans and Aphex Twin
I'm a big fan of people like Brian Eno, Swans and Aphex Twin
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Re: Do you need to be a great musician to start making Ambient Music?
Wed, May 21, 2008 - 6:36 AMWTFN -
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Re: Do you need to be a great musician to start making Ambient Music?
Wed, May 21, 2008 - 1:44 PMLOL thats speedy advice hahaha -
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Re: Do you need to be a great musician to start making Ambient Music?
Wed, May 21, 2008 - 10:07 PM*S*
Well, it may take more than a keyboard
to be even remotely like the musicians you mentioned.
They just *make it* look easy.
Ya'nowhatamsayin?
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Re: Do you need to be a great musician to start making Ambient Music?
Fri, May 23, 2008 - 3:44 PMA couple of stories can possibly answer your question.
The David Byrne of the Talking Heads gave Tina Weymouth a bass guitar and coerced her to start learning it
against here initial objections because his budding art rock band needed a bassist. She became famous
and rich with the Talking Heads and The Tom Tom Club.
I think it was Paul Kantner (I could be wrong) who saw Spencer Dryden sitting in a Marin County restaurant;
went up to him and said, "You look like our drummer". Having never played the drums before, the stylish
Dryden became the Jefferson Airplanes drummer.
I, personally, have taught over 2,500 people to play the drums or percussion or bass guitar in my life as a music teacher and this I can tell you: Every single person I know who felt a strong compulsion to learn an instrument became a good musician.
The fact that you would even consider such an idea tells me that you should follow your heart and ignore
the judgement of insecure people.
It's always the people who have the most insecurities who are the greatest naysayers to other human beings expressing themselves
creatively.
I say, if you feel the strong desire to get a keyboard, then I'd go for it and,
" damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" as they said in World War something or other.
Firstly, you might consider looking into a good inexpensive Midi controller and use it to control
VSTi instruments in a laptop or desktop computer.
There are wonderful freeware versions of great synthesizers.
You might check out my Audio Plugin Junkies Annonymous tribe........join it and post
a queery about suitable beginning keyboard 'soft' synths.
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Re: Do you need to be a great musician to start making Ambient Music?
Sat, May 24, 2008 - 7:20 PMTake note, some peole get paid to teach people music
and may have an investment in the advice they give.
hahaha, i'm *such* a crotch.
But really,
you can make really interesting 'ambient'
just by combining two 'drone' tracks.
Or Vibrating Bowl Music and Nature tracks and
a few snippets of found sound.
Viola! -
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Re: Do you need to be a great musician to start making Ambient Music?
Sun, May 25, 2008 - 12:05 PMGood god, Ben,
I take time to post a helpful letter to someone who is possibly insecure about making music.....trying to be
encouraging and informative and you are going to bitch slap me for giving a shit.
give me a fucking break!
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In my own life I refused to take lessons as a drummer for the first 15 years. I was talented but cynical and wary about
learning. In my sixteenth year, i taught myself to learn how to read western notation and began taking percussion
lessons for the first time.
I learned more in the next year than the previous 15 years together. I'm a student to this very day and I celebrated my
40th year of drumming last year.
The advice I gave was the very best I had to give at the time and I wasn't looking for new students by posting it whether your
are cynical or not.
Sorry you are such a 'crotch', you may be missing some wonderful drumming knowledge in your life.
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Re: Do you need to be a great musician to start making Ambient Music?
Sun, May 25, 2008 - 11:46 PMhahaha...guess I touched a nerve.
Take every post with a grain
and the internet will seem
*sooo* much more fun!
Peace,
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Re: Do you need to be a great musician to start making Ambient Music?
Mon, June 2, 2008 - 2:38 PMYou impune my motives in helping a fellow list member with a problem
and then laugh at me when my feelings are hurt.
Then you give me advice about how to feel about posts I read on the internet.
Then you act like a good guy who doesn't take things to seriously because you end your post with , "Peace".
Walk your talk, Ben and please quit giving me gratuitous advice on how to have 'sooooo much more fun'.
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Re: Do you need to be a great musician to start making Ambient Music?
Mon, June 9, 2008 - 7:17 AMHa!
I love you Rick, I really do.
You crack me up.
Maybe you should spend a little more time
moderating these boards for spam and less over-reacting
to my little stupid posts.
I *in no way* meant to 'hurt your feelings'
If that honestly hurt your feelings I wonder how
(or if) you venture out much into the larger,
less gentiel Internet.
(I feel like...)
You've assumed I'm being angry when I'm simply
pointing out a possiblity... then when I offer a friendly post
to make my point clear...that I'm not really taking any of this seriously
and could care less if you're fishing for students...
you over-react again, write a very cleverly snarky post
and say I'm not walking my walk.
or walking my talk...or whatever.
Seriously, the whole thing is laughable.
So please, believe me when I say
I'm *smiling* as I type...
Fuck you!
*and most importantly*
PEACE!!!
:)
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Re: Do you need to be a great musician to start making Ambient Music?
Mon, May 26, 2008 - 9:44 PMDon't really need a keyboard now a days.....
Check out BuzzMachines and Csound.
www.icompositions.com/artists...ioChosis
See what ya think......
Till Soon,
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Re: Do you need to be a great musician to start making Ambient Music?
Tue, May 27, 2008 - 12:08 AMKeyboards are cheaper than computers
but (just from my limited exp. with Acid 6.0)
computers are loads more fun....
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Re: Do you need to be a great musician to start making Ambient Music?
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 2:59 PMsomafm.com/play/dronezone
>>Do you need to be a great musician to start making Ambient Music?<<
Yes. Everyone needs to be a great musician.
You're taking the first step to finding out if you are one or not. My advice is to get others to hear your work and listen openly to their criticisms. The chances are decent that you are, in fact, a great musician. There's really only one way to find out, though. -
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Re: Do you need to be a great musician to start making Ambient Music?
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 7:27 PMHowever you find is the best means to making musical sound, get really good at doing that. The interface is irrelevant to the "style" of music.
I saw a performer (Malcolm Goldstein) mesmerize an audience of 800 by rubbing two rocks on the stage for about 2 hours. Now *that* was an ambient concert. But most people would have no idea what to do with those same 2 rocks... a keyboard that works great for Eno could sound like poo when 9/10 people approach it. What's *your* instrument? How can you get better at it?
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